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He
is a director cut from a very different cloth. His movies
are entertaining and yet rooted in reality. He is passionately
political and committed to exploring social themes, and yet
what is remarkable about his work is that he wants to weave these themes within the framework of songs, romance, and action.
His E, starring Jeeva, was striking for its setting in the
ghettos of Chennai. We found the director to be very aware,
informed, and intelligent.
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“I’m
not interested in a love story for the sake of it. It has
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BW:
What is the status of your current project, Peranmai?
Well,
I’ve taken a little break from shooting Peranmai,
which is why I’m able to be here, giving Behindwoods
this interview.
Is
the story based on something true or is it imaginary?
It
is fiction, but also based on the lives of how hard life
is for farmers and tribal people.
Recently in Dasavatharam, Kamal Haasan has tackled
the impact of global events on India. Are you also interested
in attempting something like that?
I
admired Kamal for doing that in the movie. He showed us
in an entertaining way how world events leave their own
imprints on all of us, even on each Tamilian! 'Peranmai
will also deal with political economy, and our inability
to safeguard our own time-tested knowledge on our herbs,
herbal insecticides and other organic wealth. We allow the
US to walk away with the patents. Take turmeric and neem.
We have always known their great medicinal properties, but
we let other countries take it from us and patent it. The
same with organic food – we make them, but they buy
it from us and distribute it around the world.
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Going
by your earlier films, people say that there’s
very little romance in your movies. What about Peranmai?
Peranmai
certainly has a love story. Usually movies have
a chemistry of passion and romance, violence and
sex, a sort of animal energy to everything, but
the love story here is one sided!
Can
we expect another wonderful love story like Iyarkkai
from you?
I
do want very much to make a powerful love story.
But I can tell you right away that though it will
be a love story, it will take into account its relationship
to society. I’m not interested in making a
love story for the sake of a love story. It has
to have truth.
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“I
admired Kamal for making an entertaining movie about
globalization. ”
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Once
again, some in the audience say that you focus so much on
the story, that the hero takes a backseat. Will you, if needed,
turn your script around to suit a star?
No, I won’t. There is no need to make compromises like
that. And my movies do not diminish the hero at all. Actually,
they show him to be more powerful than most other movies.
Take E for example. After the movie, Jeeva was a bigger hero
than before, wasn’t he? Though I do not twist my stories
to project my heroes as supermen, I give them strong enough
roles that could only elevate their value in the movie market.
On
actors entering politics
There's
no harm in actors using their popularity to enter politics.
Or for that matter singers or dancers or any other kind of
popular performers. But swaying the people with charity and
flags alone won't enable them to understand politics and be
effective. Whether it is a singer or an actor, they should
study the State's weaknesses and strengths, its problems,
and offer viable solutions. That would be doing real politics.
Is
E based on people you knew?
True.
I grew up near the Mylapore market. I based the story on my
brother's friend who lived near the Mylapore market. We all
used to call this man Eee because he would appear and disappear
like a fly. He is no more, and I’m sad about that. Many
of the other characters in the movie are also named after
my friends – some even modeled on them!
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"I
don’t want to make a love story for the sake
of a love story. It has to have truth."
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Is
the movie Iyarkkai also based on people you know?
Not
exactly people I know, but the way I researched for
the script was by talking to several friends who’ve
had sea-faring experience or knew these fisherfolk,
especially some of those who illegally risk working
on these foreign ships. My friends from the fishing
hamlets-.Meenavar Kuppams- as we call them are uneducated
but what fascinates me is how well traveled they are!
They’ll speak to me casually about Australia,
Japan, America, Russia, as though these were just
districts of Tamil Nadu! What they do is, they quietly
get into foreign national ships when they berth here
and sail away. Halfway through, they reveal themselves
to the captain and beg for work. If the captain takes
a fancy to them, they get a job and end up seeing
new countries. If not, they are tried according to
the laws of the country the ship belongs to. If the
ship is German for instance, he will be tried according
to German marine law. He would be either deported
or dropped off in the next sea port and so on. All
this fascinated me enough to do a movie about the
sea-faring life.
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(At this point, director Jananathan’s mobile phone rings.
“I’m in an interview, call me later”, he
says quickly and ends the call. With an apology and a laugh
he tells us he’s still figuring out how to turn the
thing off. “I bought it recently – it’s
an iPhone – and there’s so much you have to learn
about making it work for you!”)
What
would be an underlying purpose for your movies?
I’m
eager to do films which carry some sort of a social message,
movies rooted in a particular reality. I like exploring drama
and romance within that context – not in a context of
fantasy. For 'Iyarkai' I have taken the lives of seafaring
people as the theme. When I wanted to make the movie, people
said who would be interested in a movie about sea farers…and
how do you know what life for them is like? Tamil Nadu has
such a long history of sea trade extending to 2000 years,
so how could they say that? I made the movie and proved them
wrong. And now for my new movie, Peranmai, I have dealt with
forests and hills and the lives of people living there.
How
would this be different from other Tamil movies with a rural
setting?
Good
question. My movie is not about agriculture on the plains
– we know that only too well from several movies. Peranmai
is about farming in the hills, which is vastly different.
Just imagine how freezing the weather is up there, mist and
cold, etc, and this is the picture I want to convey in the
movie.
How
have you attempted to go about showing it?
When we go to Kodaikannal for instance, we go for a holiday
and enjoy the cold. But for the people who live there all
through the year, it is a struggle. I want to project reality
the way it is and not as what we read in school text books.
Farmers living on hills have to take into account inhospitable
climate, poisonous insects and other subtle difficulties while
farming. Life itself is difficult- which school textbooks
either generalize or gloss over!
What do you feel is the difference between Tamil movies
and Hindi movies?
I
do have something important to say about that. Increasingly
Hindi movies are urban with very contemporary themes. It’s
good that the themes are current, but all of it seems for
a city audience or an NRI audience. Tamil movies, and indeed
South Indian movies, are still in touch with grassroots. Movies
are still set in villages and towns, and if it is the city,
in slums. I think Hindi movies seriously need to come back
to ground realities. They have become too glossy, catering
only to an international audience. Tamil movies still reach
out to the lowest levels.
Your
titles are always intriguing. What about Peranmai?
Well, with Tamil being such a rich language, there's no dearth
of good Tamil titles for me! Peranmai is a much used word,
but not in cinema so far, perhaps.
What
about awards?
Though
I don’t target awards, I will be very happy to receive
them. When I won an award, director Vikraman and NA.Kamarasan
immediately reached out and congratulated me. One of them
even came to my house and garlanded me. But the audience in
general don’t seem to be too aware of awards, or they
don’t seem to particularly go to movies because it has
won an award. This is sad, because it means that the award
means little at the box office. How many people know, for
instance, about the awards my movies have received? Few.
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The
social message that you want to convey – will
you use any language to do it?
Yes.
If I have to do a Hindi movie, I’ll do it. Or
even an English movie. Whichever helps me convey what
I passionately want to say to a larger audience. In
Hindi I can get a bigger budget to make movies and
in English, still bigger.
On
your choice of heroines?
I’ll
go with any heroine who can speak Tamil. I choose
Tamil-speaking heroines for my movies because I’m
handicapped by not knowing any other language. I want
them to understand what I want them to portray precisely.
In Peranmai there happens to be a North Indian girl
who can speak good Tamil, also a girl from Hyderabad
who speaks Tamil, so it was fine to direct them.
What
about the new trend of remakes?
I
will only remake a classic movie that is so good that
it deserves to be remade. Only excellent movies can
be remade, because they carry the noble idea (or theme)
down through time
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“Give
me a heroine who knows Tamil, that’s all!.”
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On
your heroes
I
want to single out Jayam Ravi and Jeeva as two really dedicated
actors who are such a pleasure to watch because they do their
homework so well. Both exercise two hours in the morning and
even as late as 12 midnight, they will exercise. And even
though both have industry backgrounds, they never make that
a reason to treat them special. Neither do they use that excuse
to interfere with my direction.
What
about corporate companies funding Tamil movies?
Well,
both – corporate or studio financing – has its
own problems. Each bring their own pressure. Studios make
a demand that a movie should be shot here or there and within
a certain framework. Corporate companies offer you a wider
distributorship. I’m making Peranmai for Ayngaran, which
is a huge international company. They also have a worldwide
market.
On
actors.
If
a technician does not turn up for a day, I can do without
him or replace him at short notice, but with actors, even
actors doing a small part, need to be present to take the
shot. So, we are dependent on them. If I cast a star as hero,
I have to stay with the star till the end of the movie. That’s
the fame and respect all actors have. Too many people may
not know me, but they will know even the smallest actor in
my movies. That’s their market. But that doesn’t
mean directors don’t have their market. Bala and Ameer
have their own market, I have mine, Mani Ratnam has his, and
so on. But it’s the actors who command the biggest market.
What
about Parutheveeran?
I
greatly admired it for its precision. Ameer knew exactly what
lighting to use, what costumes, etc. Even though it did not
have stars, it was a hit. The movie is a lesson for all of
us. At least, I have taken it as a lesson.
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